A Journey Through The Church: My Conversion To Liberalism
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Mon Mar 28, 2011 at 12:16:50 AM EST
Entry into the Faith: First Contact With Dominionism
I suppose I was always a liberal Christian at heart.  However, my charismatic experience, which occured early in my Christian life, at the age of 18, made mainstream Christianity inaccessible to me.  

I was raised in the Presbyterian Church, US, the old Southern Church.  Our denomination later joined the PCUSA.  There was nothing abnormal or ultra-conservative about the church I grew up in.  Our ministers were kindhearted and loving, never used the pulpit for hellfire sermons or social issues.  Politics were never discussed.  We were never encouraged from the pulpit to vote.  Those things, in Presbyterianism, were not considered matters of faith, but matters of conscience.

We were never told what kind of movies we should see, whether or not we should dance in public, drink alcohol, or smoke cigarettes.  I never heard talk about what we shouldn't do - only positive things we should do.  The sermons I heard were inspirational, sometimes awe-inspiring, but always encouraging.

But every summer, my father dropped my mother, my brother, and myself off in rural Georgia for a month, to visit my mother's parents.  Southern Baptists, they were, and every year, Preacher Joe threatened to withdraw from  the Southern Baptist Convention because he believed their Sunday School literature was far too liberal.  This is where I heard stories of eternal hell and damnation of the sinner.  Every Sunday, Preacher Joe gave an altar call - a chance for some poor sinner to come forward, repent of his sins, and receive Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Savior.  Nobody ever came forward, because the village was small, and the same Christians showed up every Sunday.

When I turned 15, I joined the Presbyterian Church back home and was baptized by pouring - a big relief for me because in rural Georgia, they dunked you in baptistry behind the pulpit.

At 18, I experienced something called the baptism of the Holy Spirit.  I spoke in tongues.  This happened to me as the result of my own Presbyterian minister's experience, which he shared with his entire congregation.  I felt compelled to open myself to this as well, and received the experience in the minister's office, while a few other congregants prayed for me.  This was a turning point in my life.  Our minister eventually lost his job, partly because of his spiritual boldness.  I left soon afterward.  I visited many Pentecostal churches, and during that time, I was exposed to an early form of Dominionism: The Faith Movement.




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...more?  I'm confused, it sounds like you left a liberal church and joined dominionists.  I spoke in tongues from age 12 to age 19 on a pretty much daily basis.  I can still do it, but certainly don't do it anymore for any spiritual purposes.

by OldChaosoftheSun on Mon Mar 28, 2011 at 05:35:13 AM EST
I'm a long way from finished, but I also have to say I don't think any of my fellow Presbyterian congregants would have thought of our church as liberal - just normal, in terms of Presbyterianism. Both ministers in this church acquired their degrees from Columbia Theological Seminary in Atlanta.  When I think of "liberal" theology, I think first of the demythologizing of Scripture.  While the pastors of this church were probably exposed to higher and textual criticism, the seminary was still proclaiming the Bible to be God's infallible Word.  Now, moderate seminaries tend to add "infallible in the original monographs." Of course, there aren't any extant original monographs, so that's how the moderates get around the question.

by AspieChristian on Mon Mar 28, 2011 at 09:23:06 AM EST
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...more?  I'm confused, it sounds like you left a liberal church and joined dominionists.  I spoke in tongues from age 12 to age 19 on a pretty much daily basis.  I can still do it, but certainly don't do it anymore for any spiritual purposes.

by OldChaosoftheSun on Mon Mar 28, 2011 at 05:35:42 AM EST


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