The Problem of False Equivalence
Frederick Clarkson printable version print page     Bookmark and Share
Sat Nov 13, 2010 at 08:18:04 PM EST
 False equivalence has been in the news of late thanks to Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, and Bill Maher -- each of whom has had much to say about comedian Jon Stewart's claims, during his pre-election rally in Washington, about the ideology and excesses of the Left and Right.

Whatever one may think of the Stewart flap, it has surfaced the general problem of false equivalence, which has plagued discussion, reporting, and strategic political thinking about the Religious Right.

I got to thinking about this in light of a Daily Kos diary discussing Bill Maher's criticism of Stewart's plunge onto the runway of contemporary liberal fashion of unintentionally dividing the religious and political left against itself by engaging in false equivalence.  Over the years, we have also discussed on this site how this odd and opportunistic Manicheanism erects unnecessary obstacles to natural allies coming together in defense of democracy and against theocracy or other totalist entities.  In this post I want to surface the general problem and offer a few examples

We may define false equivalence as when when someone falsely equates an act or idea of one as being equally egregious to that of another without also considering the underlying differences which may make the comparison  invalid or unfair.

False equivalences often take the form of analogies that we are expected to take a little too seriously.  For example, we have recently witnessed the backfiring of a TV ad for a member of congress who called his opponent "Taliban Dan." While there was much about which to legitimately criticize then-candidate, now U.S. Representative-elect, Dan Webster (R-FL), the comparison to the Taliban was widely taken as a false equivalence that reflected poorly on the candidate who made it.  But even if one takes the view that the analogy was fair, one has to consider the political consequences of failing to understand that many people do not for a range of under-appreciated reasons, as evidenced by how the ad backfired -- making the comparison as much of an issue as the substance of the criticism.

We may recall that that Old Time McCarthyism was often marked by the use of false equivalences. And McCarthy's political descendants have kept alive The Tradition. A few years ago, a writer for The American Spectator engaged in serial false equivalences in a demagogic screed aimed at this web site. Here is part of my reply:

On the eve of the national gathering of the United Church of Christ in Hartford, Connecticut, [Jeffrey] Lord [the former political director in the Reagan White House] compared his own church to the former Soviet Union and this comparison is justified he implies, because the leadership of the UCC is somehow analogous to the Talk to Action site guidelines!  As a co-founder of the site, naturally this came as a surprise to me -- as did Lord's claim that our modest effort and the activities of the national UCC are also somehow like Harvard and contemporary Russia.

There is a point at which an analogy becomes a false equivalency and the two examples above, epitomize the genre.

The Daily Kos diarist who highlighted Maher's critique of Stewart, said that sometimes Maher too engages is false equivalency, stating that he is

"...very misguided when it comes to distinguishing between Muslims and Muslim extremists (talk about false equivalences!), and treats all religions the same (I'm Taoist, and it's rather offensive)."

I don't watch Maher's show so I have not personally seen him do this. But assuming what the writer says is so -- it is more than offensive. Maher's method is boneheadedly divisive, pitting religious and non-religious opponents of theocracy against one another. (He is, of course, not the only one who has done this.)  But what Maher did is significant because he had the courage to raise an important problem facing all of us in public life. For his part, Stewart also raised many useful thoughts about the nature of cable news and opinion and public discourse in general -- especially in his recent interview with Rachel Maddow, during which he observed regarding the errors and excesses of our friends and allies:

"We have a tendency to grant amnesty to people we agree with, and be dismissive of people we don't...".

Finally, it is worth highlighting the efforts of some liberal religious interest groups and individuals to marginalize other religious progressives  by denouncing (always unnamed) voices on the Left and Right.  I took two liberal Catholic writers to task about their demagogic indulgence and their appeal to a false middle/moderation in 2009:  

Common sense tells us that just because Gehring and Campbell claim to represent a moderate and responsible middle between two alleged extremes, does not necessarily mean that in fact they do. And indeed, the amount of invective they were able to cram into a short space in the service of their strawman arguments, should give pause to anyone who might be inclined to consider whether their views are, in fact, moderate or reasonable.

Here is a sampler of terms they use in discussing those of us who disagree with them:  "malign," "righteous zeal," "absolutist devotion," "predictable to the absurd," "demonization" "hardened agendas" and - my personal favorite -- a "scorched earth rhetorical style."

They conclude with a call to the rest of us to "embrace a spirit of greater humility, compassion and critical introspection..."

It was not hard to figure out where I, (as one of those who has written critically about the politics of abortion reduction) fit on Gehring and Campbell's enemies list. I must be among that notorious lot of unnamed "liberal bloggers" who allegedly "slam Catholics and evangelicals working on this approach as radical 'anti-choice' hardliners cozying up to the Religious Right." I say "allegedly" because Gehring and Campbell offer no examples and make no effort to actually address any of our points.

Also in 2009, Third Way consultant Robert P. Jones denounced the contributors to Dispatches from the Religious Left in a very similar fashion.  I replied:

Jones' main response was to unfavorably contrast our character with those he interviewed for his... book, Progressive & Religious: How Christian, Jewish, Muslim, and Buddhist Leaders are Moving Beyond the Culture Wars and Transforming Public Life. He complained of "snarkiness" on our part; "sheer incivility," "rancor," "throwing stones," a "binary mindset," and a "take-no-prisoners mentality," while claiming that he is part of a "more humble" movement with a "less defensive attitude." Our "mindset" he writes, "has generated some surprising parallels between the left and the right."

Jones' evidence for his claims was nearly non-existent and his sole example  was easily rebutted. But the broader point here is that when the avatars of moderation and middle ground resort to false equivalences in an effort to gain hegemony in the discussion, great damage is done; again, dividing people who ought to be allies.  

It is worth reminding ourselves that while there is nothing inherently wrong with moderates and moderation, some people's claims to represent moderation in method and substance ain't necessarily so. What's more, some people's charges of immoderation on the part of others ain't necessarily so either.  




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Having watched the Stewart/Colbert rally as well as Maher's little spiel, I have to defend Stewart.

What the Daily Show host was getting at was not the equivalence of content, but the equivalence of tone; demonization, if you will. It was not lost on me that the chief liberal talking head Stewart kept showing on the big screen in back of him during the rally's closing speech was Ed Schultz, a pundit who can only be increasingly described as being on par with Limbaugh in dishing out inaccurate statements and hate (scroll halfway down).

Here is what I believe is Stewart's greater point (as well as that of Bob Somerby of Daily Howler): When we adopt the Right's discordant strategies, we lose. We become too tribal, too hateful of "the other." Debate then becomes a pissing contest - which is exactly what the right wants. Why? Because when the focus of the discussion is on ideas, we tend to win.

by Frank Cocozzelli on Sun Nov 14, 2010 at 03:58:10 PM EST

being a site about the Religious Right and what to do about it.  My point was not to delve into the Stewart affair, but to use it as a jumping off point since the kerfuffle has inserted the problem of false equivalence into our national discourse, and that since the problem of false equivalence has significantly hampered our discussion of this subject, I used the opportunity to surface some of the ways it affects our work.

That said, the criticisms of Stewart were specific and not made by me.  Any defense of Stewart, would need to respond to the criticisms actually made, rather than making unsupported interpretations of Stewart's intentions.  

That said, in Maddow's interview with Stewart, which I watched and is available on the MSNBC web site, Stewart backed off of his false equivalences when forced to confront specifics. Indeed, he mostly declined to offer any specifics, including of Ed Schultz. The problem here, Frank, is not in my opinion, one of tone so much as it is of substance, specifics, and proportion.  If one has a criticism to make of Schultz, Limbaugh, Dan Webster, or anyone else, one should go ahead and make their case, make it rather than pretending any of these people are somehow equivalent to someone or something else, particularly without presenting any facts or reasonable analysis to back up the claim.

Appeals to a false middle break down on the specifics, which is what happened to some of those who have smeared this site as well as the contributors to Dispatches. False equivalence can in itself be a form of demonization, and as a featured writer on this site, and as a contributor to Dispatches, Frank, you were among those demonized in the manner described above.

by Frederick Clarkson on Sun Nov 14, 2010 at 04:57:56 PM EST
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I still think that what Stewart was doing relates to part of what this site is about, and that is making our arguments on the merits as opposed to name calling.

Yes, I was demonized for as a contributor to Dispatches and you justly called Jones on that issue. But I am still quite concerned with the devolving discourse. It is something that hurts the religious left especially hard. And that is why I spoke up for Stewart.

by Frank Cocozzelli on Sun Nov 14, 2010 at 05:23:07 PM EST
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and set back his cause by engaging in a version of exactly what he says he is against.  I very much agree that making an argument on its merits is essential. Would that Stewart had done that.  But even if he had, it would still be off topic here.  

You are correct that we have opposed demonization tactics by the Religious Right and oppose responding in kind.  Similarly, the site guidelines make clear that we want to keep the conversation on the site civil, even when its gets contentious.  But Stewart is talking about bigger things, and almost nothing directly on topic for us.

That said, there are certainly ways to bring his thoughts into the conversation here. I did it myself in this post.  

by Frederick Clarkson on Sun Nov 14, 2010 at 05:41:59 PM EST
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I think a large portion of people have "learned" how to engage in discussions (and I use that word loosely also) by watching their heroes or the people they agree with on the collective rant that has become talk TV and they ape what they see.

No one seems to understand the mechanics of critical thinking or even of how to structure a logical argument and then go on to posit the argument and defend it. Everything devolves to screaming and throwing out what ill-informed listeners/viewers take to be valid facts because they use numbers. Whether or not the numbers are correct or even apply to whatever is being discussed is beside the point.

We have allowed more than a generation of people to leave school without the basic tools needed to understand what they are being fed as news. They can't see false equivalency and if they get the feeling something isn't quite right with the analogies they are presented to consider they don't know why that feeling is there. If the person making the argument is one of their authorities who has gained their trust, they don't even bother to question what they are hearing.

That's the problem I have with the various cable shows. I've pretty much given up watching any of them. I stopped watching the Daily Show because I don't agree with allowing war criminals and people who enabled an illegal war to push their books without confronting them in a very accusatory manner. Stewart doesn't do that. He actually jokes with Bill Kristol leaving aside the blueprint that man has for our country. Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann never talk about the despicable conditions in which the people of Gaza live and our government's complicity in those crimes.

I thank you for this site and the respite it provides from glib sound bite-type discussion.

by matt carmody on Mon Nov 15, 2010 at 12:01:29 PM EST


the issue of false equivalence in political discourse, particularly in discussions related to religion and ideology. False equivalence occurs when individuals or media outlets inaccurately equate two different ideas or actions without considering underlying differences.  Outdoor Recreational Sports Examples from various commentators, such as Bill Maher and Jon Stewart, are cited to illustrate how false equivalence can hinder productive dialogue and cooperation among allies with differing viewpoints. The expert emphasizes the importance of discerning between genuine moderation and claims of moderation that may not hold true.

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