When the Point is Right but the Terms are Wrong
Frederick Clarkson printable version print page     Bookmark and Share
Tue May 20, 2008 at 12:37:23 PM EST
The Real News Network, a new, international news service, has a video report on the issue of religious indoctrination and intolerance in the U.S. military. The segment titled Holy warriors in the US Armed Forces: Separation of church and state being dissolved within the military can be viewed at the RNN web site.

In it is a case example of how important points can be undermined by ill-considered uses of language.

Here is an excerpt from the transcript:

MATTHEW PALEVSKY, JOURNALIST, TRNN: The separation of church and state is a founding principle of American democracy. But after his sons were subject to antisemitic taunts at the US Air Force Academy, Mikey Weinstein realized that this separation had disappeared. Himself a graduate of the Air Force Academy and former White House council to Ronald Reagan, Weinstein started an organization called the Military Religious Freedom Foundation in order to reinstate the religious freedoms guaranteed by the establishing clause in the First Amendment.

MICHAEL L. "MIKEY" WEINSTEIN, FOUNDER, MILITARY RELIGIOUS FREEDOM FOUNDATION: Basically, we've got a situation where one particular metaphysical or religious perspective, in this case what is known as fundamentalist Christianity--it's actually got a longer technical name, called pre-millennial dispensational re-constructionist Dominionist fundamentalist evangelical Christianity--I realize it's a mouthful--represents about 12.6 percent of the American public. But remember Hitler never had more than 8 percent in his nationalist socialist movement, and Stalin had 2.9 percent. These are a group of people, about 38 million Americans, and the percentages are much higher in the US military--we think in the low-30-percent area--who believe that basically what's referred to as the great commission in the New Testament, the Book of Matthew, Chapter 28, Verse 19, where one of the last things Jesus is supposed to have said to the apostles, which is "go and make disciples of all nations," also a reference in Mark 16:50. They believe that that trumps any aspect of the Constitution, and basically that they have an illimitable right to push this biblical world view irrespective of federal law, constitutional law, irrespective of being regulated by time, place, or manner, to the exclusion of everybody else.

As much as Weinstein is right about the principles he is upholding, and I am glad he is doing it, he is absurdly wrong in his description of the people who violate them.

fundamentalist Christianity--it's actually got a longer technical name, called pre-millennial dispensational re-constructionist Dominionist fundamentalist evangelical Christianity

There is, of course, no such thing. There are many groupings and belief sets under the wide category of evangelical Christianity; some of them disagree with one another quite strongly. Weinstein lumps them all together as though everyone believes in exactly the same things. This is a not uncommon error among people who come to be rightly concerned about the religious right. (That, along with unnecessarily inflammatory language.)  Such errors undermine the credibility of all of our efforts, and often backfire as well.  




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Oh, no!!! ... do I hear the "lumpers" vs "splitters" controversy taking hold here?  

(I couldn't resist that!)

(GRIN!)

I'll be gone for a few weeks- "see you" when I get back.

by ArchaeoBob on Tue May 20, 2008 at 07:11:54 PM EST


Still I think he has a good approach. After all, while those on the left have spent their time splitting hairs over relatively insignificant distinctions and becoming increasingly irrelevant, those on the right have been using simplistic generalizations and inflammatory language to create an economic, political, and even military empire. And you don't have to like the empire they've created in order to admire the success of their tactics. I disagree with you that he's lumping all Evangelicals together. His long, (admittedly clumsy, and maybe even inaccurate) list of adjectives is his attempt to make it clear that he is not talking about all Evangelical Christians, but only a specific subset. As to unnecessarily inflammatory language, if the military is anywhere near 30% dominionist, I don't think his language could be strong enough, especially when you add in tax-funded Christian private armies like Blackwater.

by Dave on Wed May 21, 2008 at 12:20:57 AM EST
does not exist.

And the lesson is simple, Dave. If you are  serious about serious matters, and expect to be taken seriously, you demonstrate that you know what you are talking about, rather than proving that you don't.

Weinstein and others undermine their own cause and everyone else's when presenting gibberish as scholarship.

No excuses.

by Frederick Clarkson on Wed May 21, 2008 at 01:30:25 PM EST
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