Tony Perkins Draws Line From Horrific Colo. Shooting To Media `Hostility' Toward Christians
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Tue Dec 11, 2007 at 10:09:54 PM EST
On Sunday, a disturbed young man in Colorado named Matthew Murray shot and killed two people at a missionary training center in Arvada. He then went on to Colorado Springs, where he killed two more people at New Life Church before being shot dead by a church security guard.

Murray was heavily armed, carrying an assault rifle, two handguns and 1,000 rounds of ammunition. He had requested to stay in a dormitory at Youth with a Mission, the missionary training center, and had been refused. News outlets have reported that Murray had once been affiliated with the group but had been thrown out. He had been sending the group hate mail.

More revelations may come to light about Murray, but at this point it's clear he had some serious mental problems. Such horrific violence cannot have been the product of a normally functioning mind.  At a time like this, most people know what must be done: We express our sympathy for the families of those killed. Those who are religious may remember them in prayer. However we do it, it's a time to offer our support and our condolences.

Unless you're Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council.

If you are Tony Perkins, this is a time to whine, portray yourself as a victim and make utterly tactless comparisons between the shooting and alleged "hostility" toward Christians in the media.

In a statement e-mailed to supporters yesterday, this is what Perkins had to say: "It is hard not to draw a line between the hostility that is being fomented in our culture from some in the secular media toward Christians and evangelicals in particular and the acts of violence that took place in Colorado yesterday. But I will say no more for now other than that our friends at New Life Church and YWAM are in our thoughts and prayers."

It's hard to know how to respond to something this incoherent, mean-spirited and downright crude. What on earth is this man talking about? Even if there were "hostility" toward evangelicals in the secular media - a highly debatable point given how often Perkins appears on television news shows - it would in no way be equivalent to cold-blooded murder.

We at Americans United have strongly disagreed with the agenda of FRC and its Religious Right allies over the years. Nothing we have ever said or done suggests that we would tolerate one act of violence against them. No column in a newspaper, no matter how critical, is the same as taking someone's life.

The irony is, Murray was a product of a conservative Christian home. As The Washington Post reported, he was "home-schooled in a deeply religious Christian household." It would be foolish and offensive to suggest that this upbringing caused him to become violent. We simply do not know what demons Murray was wrestling with. Instead of trying to score cheap points with wild comparisons that don't hold up, Perkins would do better to offer support to all those affected by this tragedy.

If I could say one thing to Perkins right now, it would be this: I don't know who, if anyone, is editing the bulletins you send out. But you really need to hire someone sharp. You need someone who will put the brakes on you before you expose yourself as a heartless, boorish zealot with more junk like this




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If I recall, Tony Perkins bought David Duke's mailing list, which ought to tell you volumes about the followers Perkins seeks. Any time anyone offers any criticism, no matter how legitimate, Perkins and his political allies will see it as persecution. The only thing that would actually constitute "respect" is if Perkins's viewpoint were the only viewpoint out there.

In addition, as nogodsnomasters notes, the shooter was raised in a homeschooled evangelical Christian family and seems to have been motivated more by personal animus against the people who ran the mission program from which he was expelled.

by khughes1963 on Wed Dec 12, 2007 at 07:13:30 AM EST


the local AoG expert. Apparently an ex-pentecostal listserv is thought to have had Murray as a participant under a pseudonym. One of the posts mentioned Bill Gothard. IIRC, Gothard's books on childrearing are somewhat popular among neoPentes, and emphasize corporal punishment of the degree that would be considered abusive today (and also mentions ways to avoid detection). It may turn out that Murray was abused, causing or exacerbating mental illness.

by NancyP on Wed Dec 12, 2007 at 12:52:43 PM EST

It is VERY possible that his upbringing AND his involvement in that church (and Youth with a Mission) could have CONTRIBUTED to the murders.

There is a world of difference between "conservative Christian" and dominionist- especially those of the deliverance ministry / Joel's Army "flavor".

Like I said- see my other replies on another thread on this subject.

by ArchaeoBob on Wed Dec 12, 2007 at 03:11:01 PM EST


The hateful Jeebusites apparently cast out this future gunman some years back, and now Tony Perkins is blaming the same mainstream media that gives him a platform whenever he sends out a press release?

by nogodsnomasters on Wed Dec 12, 2007 at 01:32:27 AM EST


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