Neutralizing Barton et al.
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Wed Jul 18, 2012 at 10:22:44 PM EST
A slightly immodest proposal for taking on the skeevy revisionists
In my time as an op-ed campaigner and, hopefully, truth teller, I would go after the usual suspects with all the energy, passion and bravado I could muster. My only regret was that I never had the opportunity to go one on one with any of the heavy hitters on the other side. But now that I’m more of a spectator I’ve begun to see how difficult it really is to pin these holy barbarians down. They may be loony and dangerous, but they ain’t dumb. They’ve mastered the art of rhetorical rope-a-dope to the point where no amount of logic, reason and scholarship, no matter how well presented, can score any significant points - except, of course, with our own choir.
So taking these people on head to head has become a no-win situation simply because they’re playing not to lose. All they need do is to stick obstinately to their absurd presumptions or toss out a veritable blizzard of cut and paste “history”, leaving us grinding our teeth in frustration as we try to extricate ourselves from their revisionist tar baby. Case in point, to me anyway, is how David Barton has toyed with Jon Stewart and never conceded a thing.
So I’m thinking maybe it’s time we stepped outside the box, pull a Kobayashi Maru and just rewrite the script. Why must we always feel that in order to gain the moral high ground with this lot we must thoroughly repudiate their nonsense point by point in order to be successful? How ‘bout instead we apply a little rhetorical jujitsu and force them off point for a change by turning their vaunted message discipline against them and getting them to play in our sandbox.
Forget about a frontal assault with the truth. Gets you absolutely nowhere. Perhaps it could be as simple as conceding their basic premise, hypothetically of course, and then hit whomever with something like: All right let’s imagine for a moment that you’re right and America is a Christian nation according to your criteria. Fine. Now what does that really mean? Why is it so important to you? How would this affect our day-to-day lives?
What, if anything, would change the way we the people view the five essential institutions of society - family, religion, education, economics and government? What changes in law and custom would need to be made in order to fulfill our Christian destiny? What would be the fate of dissenters or religious outsiders in this new Christian order?
Now they’re stuck to our tar baby because we’re not challenging their essential contention but rather the implications of what they’re proposing. They can no longer hide behind how many times George Washington may have uttered the word God in 1791 because now it’s totally immaterial to the discussion. People like David Barton don’t make it their life’s work to spuriously re-form the template of American history without a reason. Maybe it’s time we pull back the curtain and expose these charlatans not for what they’re saying but why they’re saying it.
At this juncture it should be said that we wouldn’t be able to pull this off without the dedicated efforts of all the right-minded historians and truth tellers who are steadfastly shoring up the firm foundation of what it really means to to be American. It is these people who keep reminding us that true history is not something that can be invented out of whole cloth at the whim of anyone who would promulgate the Big Lie for their own nefarious purposes.
As an old history teacher I find myself just now channeling Henry V when he snookered the French at Agincourt. Instead of playing by the established rules King Hal introduced a whole new set of weapons and tactics that decimated their more traditional enemy. Perhaps this is one history lesson we could all benefit from. Just a thought, folks.



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You can find the following articles on Scribd. The first one is perfect for Barton-bashing. It's a collection of statements from the Founding Fathers written in a 'Ten Commandments format: The Ten Commandments of Our Founding Fathers http://www.scribd.com/doc/98898506/The-Ten-Commandments-of-Our-Fo unding-Fathers ____________ Theocracy Rising ~ Dominionists, Christian Nationalists and Reconstructionists: Their Intentions, Political Power and the Threat They Pose http://www.scribd.com/doc/98080359/Theocracy-Rising-Dominionists- Christian-Nationalists-and-Reconstructionists-Their-Intentions-Po litical-Power-and-the-Threat-They-Pose ____________ A Most Evil and Stupid Book: The Bible's Moral Depravity, Contradictions and Absurdities http://www.scribd.com/doc/95804194/A-Most-Evil-and-Stupid-Book-Th e-Bible%E2%80%99s-Moral-Depravity-Contradictions-and-Absurdities

by Villabolo on Wed Jul 18, 2012 at 11:11:41 PM EST

One strategy to use against these history-rapers would be to advertise the writings and DVDs of EVANGELICAL [Orthodox] CHRISTIANS who are opposed to Barton and his merry gang of Dominionist/Reconstructionist barbarians. "The Hidden Faith of The Founding Fathers", a professionally made DVD produced by Chris Pinto, would knockout Barton ditto-heads flat on the ground. The trailer to the DVD has Pinto saying "I believe it's so important, that we as Christians, expose this wicked spirit of anti-christ among the Founding Fathers and not bring these guys into our churches and teach our children, and our families and our brethren that these men were some kind of Christian heroes; when they weren't...the reason why men like David Barton want to take the founders..." Nice scary music thrown in.(http://www.adullamfilms.com/) Our tactics could consist of making a cut and paste advertisement, written with an Evangelical audience in mind, and posting it on conservative websites. By the way, barton is already aware of Pinto's work.

by Villabolo on Wed Jul 18, 2012 at 11:51:39 PM EST

Unfortunately I expect that Barton and his minions  already have prepared answers that will, again, allow them to weasel their way out of this type of question.  There is no reason for them to be any more truthful here than they are in their books.

Q. What do you mean by a Christian Nation?

A. By Christian Nation we mean a nation governed by the ethics of the New Testament: treat all people fairly, remember the poor and oppressed, love your neighbor as yourself.  What it does't mean is that anyone will be forced into Christianity.  As a Christian, would I like other people to convert to Christianity? Of course, bringing people to Christianity is a principle of my faith.  But those who don't want to convert won't have to do so, and --- if I love them as I love myself --- I must accord them the same liberties as I enjoy myself.

Q. What changes in law do you see?

A. Very few.  An example might be a law to clarify the conditions under which religious holiday displays might be placed, all in accordance with the  Supreme Court Decisions.  Another example might be a law to increase the number of military Chaplains.

You get the picture.

Answers such as these might be more dangerous than no answers at all

by pcolsen on Wed Aug 08, 2012 at 08:59:21 AM EST

They are the only answers that can/should be given. By what you said I take it to mean that there is no purpose in giving ANY answers simply because they can counter with anything. Practically speaking there is no logic in not fighting an attacker simply because he could keep attacking you. He will anyway. So why rebut him/them at all? As to the hypothetical response that you gave, it can be dealt with rebuttals based on the actual record of Barton's/Republicans' statements and actions. More importantly, "Christians" will be exposed to another, heretofore unknown, aspect of their own religion - the anti-establishment Evangelicals. They have the upper hand when it comes to emphasizing the apolitical nature of 'true Christianity'. Divide et impera.

by Villabolo on Wed Aug 08, 2012 at 05:06:15 PM EST
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